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| 00:00:03 | KiG -ii |
| 00:00:17 | KiG i get sky |
| 00:00:19 | skyZ ? |
| 00:00:19 | Maier -ii |
| 00:00:19 | 0Xxo0_o biggie r3spekt |
| 00:00:19 | Maier -water red |
| 00:00:19 | Maier -weather rain |
| 00:00:19 | KiG its banntime? |
| 00:00:19 | Biggie soo |
| 00:00:19 | skyZ im new |
| 00:00:19 | KiG oh |
| 00:00:19 | 0Xxo0_o 100 % ?OO |
| 00:00:19 | Biggie what's strooong |
| 00:00:19 | KiG then |
| 00:00:19 | Maier imo ban invo |
| 00:00:19 | KiG u have to buy a chicken |
| 00:00:19 | KiG and share |
| 00:00:19 | skyZ ok |
| 00:00:19 | Biggie anyone wanna play that new mage |
| 00:00:19 | Biggie ? |
| 00:00:19 | KiG its rd |
| 00:00:19 | Maier yea |
| 00:00:19 | KiG with 2 bans |
| 00:00:19 | Maier i can |
| 00:00:19 | Biggie i heard his quite strong |
| 00:00:19 | Biggie invoker |
| 00:00:19 | GottHasstMich yew |
| 00:00:19 | GottHasstMich pls |
| 00:00:19 | yeW- Yes mate? |
| 00:00:19 | GottHasstMich lets win.. im sick of losing games for today |
| 00:00:19 | yeW- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:00:19 | slc2 ban am |
| 00:00:19 | KiG yep, me too |
| 00:00:19 | KiG !!! |
| 00:00:19 | yeW- Spec. |
| 00:00:26 | KiG noooooooo!!!! |
| 00:00:30 | yeW- Huskar anyone? |
| 00:00:30 | slc2 go get am |
| 00:00:31 | KiG damnn |
| 00:00:34 | GottHasstMich i'd play am |
| 00:00:34 | slc2 me am please!!!! |
| 00:00:46 | slc2 i can husk? |
| 00:00:48 | 0Xxo0_o this is total unbalance .... |
| 00:00:52 | slc2 in top |
| 00:00:53 | Maier biggie what u want ? |
| 00:00:56 | Biggie giv me uhmmm |
| 00:00:59 | 0Xxo0_o carry |
| 00:01:02 | skyZ why not play cd here ? |
| 00:01:02 | Biggie qop |
| 00:01:06 | skyZ cd mode |
| 00:01:06 | Maier -swap 1 |
| 00:01:08 | KiG gimme shredde |
| 00:01:09 | Biggie -swap 2 |
| 00:01:11 | Maier ty |
| 00:01:11 | yeW- -clear |
| 00:01:12 | Maier get |
| 00:01:19 | yeW- You vote for the mode. |
| 00:01:20 | KiG -swap 3 |
| 00:01:23 | slc2 -swap 2 |
| 00:01:25 | yeW- Most of the time, it's -xd. |
| 00:01:29 | Maier get lion |
| 00:01:29 | yeW- -rd with two bans. |
| 00:01:30 | Maier and |
| 00:01:30 | yeW- -clear |
| 00:01:32 | skyZ and why so shitty picks |
| 00:01:35 | Maier bane for last |
| 00:01:37 | Maier lion and bane |
| 00:01:41 | GottHasstMich shitty pool |
| 00:01:42 | GottHasstMich tbh |
| 00:01:44 | Maier veno |
| 00:01:44 | skyZ i can pick what i want ? |
| 00:01:46 | Maier top with me |
| 00:01:49 | Maier we can fb easy |
| 00:01:49 | 0Xxo0_o give me lion :D |
| 00:01:50 | yeW- Yes and no XD. |
| 00:01:54 | slc2 get wd |
| 00:01:55 | Biggie get wards |
| 00:01:55 | 0Xxo0_o plz :D |
| 00:01:58 | yeW- Get Sven or wd. |
| 00:02:01 | Biggie 1 for rune |
| 00:02:05 | slc2 wd |
| 00:02:08 | Biggie so i can get em |
| 00:02:09 | GottHasstMich wd me laning |
| 00:02:18 | Biggie fucking huskar |
| 00:02:19 | yeW- Blah, Naga mid. |
| 00:02:19 | Maier nice oxo |
| 00:02:20 | skyZ tri lane ß |
| 00:02:22 | yeW- Not the best shit. |
| 00:02:29 | slc2 lets huskar mid? |
| 00:02:29 | skyZ -clear |
| 00:02:30 | Maier go ward pullspot too |
| 00:02:31 | Maier oxo |
| 00:02:31 | KiG hmm |
| 00:02:35 | 0Xxo0_o y |
| 00:02:35 | Maier veno |
| 00:02:37 | KiG huskar able to go mid? |
| 00:02:38 | yeW- Husk mid |
| 00:02:39 | yeW- wd top |
| 00:02:39 | Maier if u hit the slow |
| 00:02:40 | Maier we kill |
| 00:02:44 | yeW- wd top |
| 00:02:47 | Krisss no slow |
| 00:02:54 | Maier what |
| 00:02:55 | Maier ? |
| 00:02:55 | slc2 naga am lane???? |
| 00:02:56 | GottHasstMich share pls |
| 00:02:58 | Maier what do u have then |
| 00:03:00 | GottHasstMich lets see.. this newh ero is bullcrap |
| 00:03:02 | yeW- np i'lll pul |
| 00:03:02 | Krisss sting |
| 00:03:03 | GottHasstMich but let see |
| 00:03:03 | GottHasstMich :D |
| 00:03:05 | yeW- -clear |
| 00:03:09 | slc2 ok |
| 00:03:12 | Biggie shit was at windows and failed block |
| 00:03:15 | Biggie hope huskar is not mid |
| 00:03:17 | yeW- hopin |
| 00:03:21 | yeW- they didnt ward xd |
| 00:03:24 | KolleBolle he suck antyz |
| 00:03:27 | Maier pull |
| 00:03:33 | yeW- t |
| 00:03:36 | Maier go pull |
| 00:03:48 | Maier GO PULL |
| 00:03:51 | 0Xxo0_o xDD |
| 00:03:58 | 0Xxo0_o what is this ? |
| 00:03:59 | 0Xxo0_o :D |
| 00:04:12 | yeW- srsl? |
| 00:04:19 | GottHasstMich i cant take mid u do idc |
| 00:04:20 | Maier veno |
| 00:04:21 | Maier slow |
| 00:04:22 | GottHasstMich i still have this lags |
| 00:04:26 | GottHasstMich i lose control on my hero.. |
| 00:04:31 | yeW- fine go bot |
| 00:04:31 | yeW- jeez |
| 00:04:40 | GottHasstMich cmon u know me im not playing that sucky |
| 00:04:45 | GottHasstMich i press attack on qop |
| 00:04:47 | GottHasstMich he attacks creep |
| 00:04:55 | GottHasstMich multiple players said it today already |
| 00:04:56 | GottHasstMich so |
| 00:04:57 | GottHasstMich ... |
| 00:05:12 | 0Xxo0_o ss |
| 00:05:14 | 0Xxo0_o blue |
| 00:05:21 | KiG WTF |
| 00:05:25 | KolleBolle attro |
| 00:05:29 | KolleBolle are you retraded |
| 00:05:40 | GottHasstMich good one |
| 00:05:41 | KolleBolle attro |
| 00:05:41 | 0Xxo0_o why lol |
| 00:05:42 | KiG ate |
| 00:05:43 | KiG mate |
| 00:05:47 | KiG i was about to surivve |
| 00:05:50 | KolleBolle NEVER EVER EVER EVER |
| 00:05:51 | GottHasstMich WTF IS THAT |
| 00:05:54 | KolleBolle farm again |
| 00:05:55 | GottHasstMich IM GOING ENRAGE |
| 00:05:59 | KolleBolle harass and fuck hi muo |
| 00:06:00 | GottHasstMich pause pls |
| 00:06:02 | GottHasstMich mega lags |
| 00:06:04 | GottHasstMich gimme 10 secs |
| 00:06:04 | KolleBolle do you understand |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 7 |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 6 |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 5 |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 4 |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 3 |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 2 |
| 00:06:04 | KolleBolle you dont need a fucking singel creep |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 1 |
| 00:06:04 | Maier 0 |
| 00:06:04 | 0Xxo0_o re |
| 00:06:04 | 0Xxo0_o go |
| 00:06:04 | KiG wow |
| 00:06:04 | yeW- Stfu. |
| 00:06:06 | 0Xxo0_o lol |
| 00:06:06 | Maier manners , guys |
| 00:06:06 | KiG husk dies vs qop-.- |
| 00:06:06 | KolleBolle pause not allowed |
| 00:06:06 | Maier it is |
| 00:06:06 | 0Xxo0_o -music special |
| 00:06:06 | Maier allowed |
| 00:06:06 | yeW- Stfu or 3 days ban mate. |
| 00:06:06 | KolleBolle so go on! he foult if he goes afk |
| 00:06:06 | GottHasstMich thx for pause |
| 00:06:06 | KolleBolle y ban me! :D |
| 00:06:06 | GottHasstMich re |
| 00:06:09 | GottHasstMich it aint me so gr8... |
| 00:06:13 | GottHasstMich lan is fine |
| 00:06:17 | GottHasstMich fucking repel dont know whats going on |
| 00:06:23 | KolleBolle stop farm |
| 00:06:23 | GottHasstMich just dont flame me if something crazy happening |
| 00:06:25 | yeW- ss qop |
| 00:06:30 | yeW- re |
| 00:06:34 | 0Xxo0_o lol |
| 00:06:41 | KiG harras |
| 00:06:52 | Maier wd |
| 00:06:54 | Maier we can kill |
| 00:06:58 | GottHasstMich go lion ? |
| 00:07:01 | slc2 jep |
| 00:07:04 | yeW- need gang |
| 00:07:10 | yeW- d |
| 00:07:11 | yeW- wd |
| 00:07:13 | yeW- come. |
| 00:07:32 | GottHasstMich lol lion survived x_X |
| 00:07:33 | skyZ do sth? |
| 00:07:35 | 0Xxo0_o fucking mis klick |
| 00:07:41 | KolleBolle fail bot! he dont understand |
| 00:07:47 | yeW- ... |
| 00:07:50 | yeW- wd, come gang mid |
| 00:07:57 | GottHasstMich i come² |
| 00:08:10 | yeW- ss qop |
| 00:08:11 | GottHasstMich qop moving top |
| 00:08:11 | yeW- inc top |
| 00:08:12 | GottHasstMich care |
| 00:08:12 | yeW- with une |
| 00:08:17 | 0Xxo0_o s2 |
| 00:08:34 | KiG hey |
| 00:08:35 | KiG qop |
| 00:08:47 | GottHasstMich rdy for lion ? |
| 00:08:52 | slc2 yea |
| 00:08:56 | KolleBolle ss |
| 00:09:14 | GottHasstMich ss bo t2 |
| 00:09:15 | 0Xxo0_o ... |
| 00:09:27 | KiG huskar... |
| 00:09:32 | 0Xxo0_o up chick plz |
| 00:09:38 | KiG if they warded spot |
| 00:09:42 | 0Xxo0_o and me buy wards |
| 00:09:44 | KiG they also qwarded |
| 00:09:48 | 0Xxo0_o lion up |
| 00:09:51 | KiG and where u go? |
| 00:09:52 | GottHasstMich and its min 6 |
| 00:09:53 | GottHasstMich wards left |
| 00:09:54 | 0Xxo0_o oh |
| 00:09:56 | KiG nap |
| 00:10:10 | 0Xxo0_o 3 |
| 00:10:12 | KolleBolle help bott |
| 00:10:21 | 0Xxo0_o wow nice |
| 00:10:21 | KiG wow |
| 00:10:27 | yeW- yeh |
| 00:10:27 | yeW- well |
| 00:10:55 | Maier omw bot |
| 00:10:56 | Maier lets kill |
| 00:10:59 | KiG kill mid |
| 00:11:00 | Maier bane sleep 1 guy |
| 00:11:03 | Maier and lion stun the other |
| 00:11:04 | Krisss ss2 |
| 00:11:08 | Maier preferrably kill am |
| 00:11:24 | Biggie ill come bot next |
| 00:11:57 | KiG yey |
| 00:12:19 | GottHasstMich help |
| 00:12:20 | GottHasstMich 3-4 |
| 00:12:21 | slc2 is biggie makin silence?????? |
| 00:12:29 | yeW- ye |
| 00:12:29 | yeW- for u |
| 00:12:30 | yeW- lol |
| 00:12:33 | Maier qop |
| 00:12:36 | Maier u know my spells ? |
| 00:12:39 | yeW- ALL TP |
| 00:12:39 | Krisss mid mis |
| 00:13:13 | KolleBolle ff at 25 |
| 00:13:32 | Biggie aww |
| 00:13:32 | KiG hi all |
| 00:13:41 | Maier biggie |
| 00:13:44 | Maier i have 6sec silence |
| 00:13:45 | Maier for am |
| 00:13:47 | yeW- b |
| 00:13:48 | GottHasstMich wd |
| 00:13:50 | Maier so stay sharp |
| 00:13:51 | Biggie k |
| 00:13:51 | GottHasstMich curse him |
| 00:13:53 | GottHasstMich i ulti |
| 00:13:53 | GottHasstMich dead |
| 00:13:58 | GottHasstMich no |
| 00:13:59 | GottHasstMich not y |
| 00:14:00 | skyZ too many bv |
| 00:14:01 | Maier COME |
| 00:14:02 | Biggie am has vanguard now |
| 00:14:03 | GottHasstMich y |
| 00:14:22 | KiG ? |
| 00:14:29 | yeW- b? |
| 00:14:30 | slc2 i was in shop |
| 00:14:36 | GottHasstMich WD? |
| 00:14:40 | GottHasstMich FFS ? |
| 00:14:41 | slc2 i tryed to blink but i was silenced??? |
| 00:14:43 | GottHasstMich what are u doing ??? |
| 00:14:51 | slc2 can the new hero silence???? |
| 00:14:55 | GottHasstMich y |
| 00:14:57 | GottHasstMich he can |
| 00:14:58 | GottHasstMich and wd |
| 00:14:59 | GottHasstMich ffs |
| 00:14:59 | slc2 sad |
| 00:15:01 | Maier yea |
| 00:15:01 | GottHasstMich mb u shithead follow me |
| 00:15:04 | GottHasstMich and stun qop at tower |
| 00:15:05 | GottHasstMich ??????? |
| 00:15:11 | GottHasstMich couldve killed her... |
| 00:15:11 | GottHasstMich omg |
| 00:15:25 | GottHasstMich LAG |
| 00:15:38 | GottHasstMich FUCK THIS |
| 00:16:20 | Maier look for the dot |
| 00:16:22 | Maier on am-s head |
| 00:16:25 | Maier that's the silence |
| 00:16:31 | Biggie some1 tp top |
| 00:16:31 | skyZ b |
| 00:16:40 | KolleBolle omw |
| 00:17:39 | Maier need to kill am |
| 00:18:00 | yeW- rofl |
| 00:18:13 | 0Xxo0_o ? |
| 00:19:01 | yeW- d? |
| 00:19:02 | yeW- wd? |
| 00:19:09 | yeW- curse |
| 00:19:11 | yeW- before u back? |
| 00:19:31 | slc2 huskar w8 me in top |
| 00:19:34 | yeW- go drop |
| 00:19:37 | yeW- skyZ |
| 00:19:39 | yeW- u suck way too much |
| 00:19:51 | GottHasstMich srsly i can play shit here around |
| 00:19:55 | GottHasstMich its so amazing.. |
| 00:19:59 | GottHasstMich ill quit afterwards that shit |
| 00:20:03 | GottHasstMich dunno whats happening |
| 00:20:06 | slc2 def |
| 00:20:12 | slc2 tp guys |
| 00:20:24 | yeW- cd tp |
| 00:20:32 | skyZ !ff |
| 00:20:36 | yeW- leave |
| 00:20:37 | yeW- w |
| 00:20:39 | yeW- gtfo |
| 00:20:46 | skyZ yes am chase that qop |
| 00:20:46 | KolleBolle b |
| 00:20:47 | Maier duel of the blinks |
| 00:20:51 | KolleBolle v |
| 00:20:52 | KolleBolle v |
| 00:20:52 | KolleBolle v |
| 00:21:27 | KolleBolle ok last time |
| 00:21:28 | KolleBolle ever |
| 00:21:54 | slc2 ty |
| 00:22:07 | yeW- once i get diffu i'll rape qop |
| 00:22:18 | Maier ulti is cd |
| 00:22:18 | slc2 heh |
| 00:22:18 | 0Xxo0_o fucking retard |
| 00:22:18 | Maier and i have range spells |
| 00:22:18 | KiG and once u quit |
| 00:22:18 | Maier so stfu |
| 00:22:18 | 0Xxo0_o stfu |
| 00:22:18 | 0Xxo0_o idiot |
| 00:22:18 | KiG u wont do a shit |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle atro you are blind |
| 00:22:18 | skyZ does thsi client have reconnect? |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle you dont use sleep and run |
| 00:22:18 | GottHasstMich yes |
| 00:22:18 | KiG yep |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle you dint skill enfeble |
| 00:22:18 | KiG 4 min |
| 00:22:18 | 0Xxo0_o what ? |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle jesus |
| 00:22:18 | skyZ lol |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle just quit |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle what heros they got!? do you think you - dmg skill works good now? |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle i think so!! |
| 00:22:18 | slc2 let me have hes items??? |
| 00:22:18 | KiG yep |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle try it out |
| 00:22:18 | KolleBolle maby |
| 00:22:18 | slc2 ty dude |
| 00:22:18 | KiG i want to have is ring |
| 00:22:30 | skyZ !ping |
| 00:22:31 | Maier bait |
| 00:22:32 | Maier lion |
| 00:22:34 | Maier let them come |
| 00:22:59 | KolleBolle ok i give yup |
| 00:23:00 | KolleBolle yup |
| 00:23:01 | KolleBolle up |
| 00:23:08 | GottHasstMich lol |
| 00:23:09 | GottHasstMich it stopped |
| 00:23:13 | GottHasstMich for past 3mins :D |
| 00:23:16 | skyZ oom |
| 00:23:18 | yeW- what did? |
| 00:23:18 | KolleBolle ff |
| 00:23:21 | GottHasstMich fucking lags |
| 00:23:23 | GottHasstMich imo no lags |
| 00:23:33 | Maier top is gone |
| 00:23:47 | yeW- diffu up |
| 00:23:57 | skyZ i go janggo |
| 00:23:58 | yeW- lets rape me some nigger qop |
| 00:24:25 | slc2 krob got silence |
| 00:24:29 | 0Xxo0_o gg |
| 00:24:31 | yeW- krob ye |
| 00:24:42 | slc2 huskar is nice with santa hat |
| 00:24:42 | yeW- mortred |
| 00:24:49 | GottHasstMich buya |
| 00:25:12 | GottHasstMich :x |
| 00:25:19 | yeW- wd, shithead |
| 00:25:23 | GottHasstMich i srsly 0 clue what this new hero makes |
| 00:25:23 | yeW- why am i the one |
| 00:25:26 | yeW- buyin wards? |
| 00:25:48 | KiG WD |
| 00:25:49 | KiG STUN |
| 00:25:50 | KiG NAP |
| 00:25:54 | yeW- he has cancer |
| 00:25:59 | KiG yea |
| 00:26:02 | KiG obviously |
| 00:26:16 | yeW- oom |
| 00:27:09 | Maier b |
| 00:27:25 | yeW- dont do that |
| 00:27:26 | yeW- slc2 |
| 00:27:35 | GottHasstMich HAHAHAHA |
| 00:27:35 | KolleBolle ok |
| 00:27:37 | 0Xxo0_o ... |
| 00:27:46 | GottHasstMich EAT |
| 00:27:48 | Maier fuck that hero |
| 00:27:50 | GottHasstMich ! |
| 00:28:39 | slc2 guys should i make s&y or the new item? |
| 00:28:50 | skyZ manta |
| 00:28:50 | slc2 or manta |
| 00:30:01 | Biggie ulti veno |
| 00:31:09 | yeW- lol |
| 00:31:36 | yeW- look at this wd |
| 00:32:37 | 0Xxo0_o go with me |
| 00:32:42 | 0Xxo0_o ward in woods |
| 00:33:18 | Biggie ff time |
| 00:33:25 | 0Xxo0_o y |
| 00:33:35 | Biggie our heroes are the worst choices against theirs |
| 00:34:05 | KolleBolle even if they are crappy! peoples dont skill right"!!! |
| 00:34:21 | KolleBolle and veno! dont rush on make ulti! and use lothars! |
| 00:34:31 | KolleBolle and he miss all dotts to |
| 00:35:15 | 0Xxo0_o tx |
| 00:35:22 | yeW- goh |
| 00:35:22 | GottHasstMich gr8 courier use btw .-. |
| 00:35:28 | yeW- ye forgot bout it |
| 00:35:33 | GottHasstMich :b |
| 00:35:34 | KolleBolle use the DMG skill attro |
| 00:35:36 | KolleBolle plz |
| 00:35:43 | 0Xxo0_o still iluz |
| 00:36:03 | KolleBolle he is a joke! dont u se!? he always run firsdt with the otginal |
| 00:36:09 | 0Xxo0_o wtf |
| 00:36:13 | 0Xxo0_o dont us |
| 00:36:16 | 0Xxo0_o use |
| 00:36:18 | 0Xxo0_o me!!!! |
| 00:37:26 | yeW- hm |
| 00:38:22 | 0Xxo0_o fuu magina |
| 00:38:24 | KolleBolle b |
| 00:38:46 | yeW- take |
| 00:39:09 | 0Xxo0_o so what ? ff or play ? |
| 00:39:45 | slc2 we hsould focus lion |
| 00:40:26 | yeW- leave em |
| 00:40:26 | yeW- tp |
| 00:40:35 | yeW- tps in chick mate |
| 00:40:43 | GottHasstMich i drop in base |
| 00:40:44 | GottHasstMich have 2 now |
| 00:40:46 | 0Xxo0_o I surrender! [1/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:40:51 | yeW- ? |
| 00:41:02 | yeW- ye |
| 00:41:04 | yeW- drop em in chick |
| 00:41:04 | yeW- zz |
| 00:41:13 | Biggie lol |
| 00:42:06 | yeW- biggie |
| 00:42:07 | yeW- mhs |
| 00:42:21 | Maier sleep huskar |
| 00:42:22 | Maier please |
| 00:42:48 | Krisss I surrender! [2/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:42:59 | Maier I surrender! [3/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:43:07 | 0Xxo0_o I surrender! [3/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:43:19 | 0Xxo0_o biggir plz |
| 00:43:36 | Biggie I surrender! [4/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:43:40 | 0Xxo0_o I surrender! [4/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:43:45 | Maier I surrender! [4/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:43:47 | GottHasstMich so |
| 00:43:47 | GottHasstMich geo |
| 00:43:48 | GottHasstMich :) |
| 00:43:48 | 0Xxo0_o who miss ? |
| 00:43:48 | Krisss I surrender! [4/5 of Scourge] |
| 00:43:49 | GottHasstMich we won it |
| 00:43:49 | GottHasstMich :D:D |
| 00:43:51 | KolleBolle me |
| 00:43:54 | GottHasstMich mission accomplished |
| 00:43:55 | 0Xxo0_o go write |
| 00:44:05 | yeW- u did jackshit amte |
| 00:44:05 | yeW- xD |
| 00:44:11 | yeW- u just made mid fuckd up for me ^^ |
| 00:44:17 | GottHasstMich buddy |
| 00:44:18 | GottHasstMich no lie |
| 00:44:19 | GottHasstMich rly |
| 00:44:21 | GottHasstMich 100% honest |
| 00:44:22 | GottHasstMich 20 mins |
| 00:44:24 | GottHasstMich only fucking lags |
| 00:44:32 | GottHasstMich that was simply unplayable |
| 00:44:46 | yeW- k |
| 00:44:48 | yeW- im sendin |
| 00:44:50 | yeW- a replay to strom |
| 00:44:55 | yeW- this biggie maps for sure |